Feel Like A Stranger, They Love Each Other, Minglewood Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Mama Tried, Big River, Big Railroad Blues, Looks Like Rain-> Don't Ease Me In China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider-> Playin' In The Band-> Uncle John's Band-> Drums-> The Other One-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: One More Saturday Night
Converted to SHN by Charlie Miller
I count this one as one of the worst shows I saw in the 80s and 90s, and that's saying something. It doesn't sound any better on tape. They just 'failed to occur' here.
4/7/85, the next night, was one of the best of the year, though... so page down.
June 24, 2013 Subject:
It's T right here in Philly..Where the little girls know what to do
Saw all three nights in Philly..and yes, this was the worst night out of the three..This was dance concert run at the Spectrum..no seats on the floor! So the first in, could go right up front and smack dab in front of Jerry I stood..He was struggling with his vocals,but if you listen to his guitar playing,he was still able to rip it..Out of over 200 shows I saw, I was only front row a couple times..You remember these times well..no matter how bad the band was playing..Watching Jerry's fingers move up and down those strings after ingesting a couple Red gells..WELL..let's say I really enjoyed myself..The Philly faithful have a good time no matter what!!!!!!!! The show is what it is..I'm not going to over think this one..the sound quality is pretty good and you judge what you hear..Forever Grateful>Forever Dead
January 20, 2012 Subject:
have a heart
hey I was at almost all of the northeast show on this tour. Jerry's playing was spectacular the whole tour. Fact is, he could've dropped dead at any moment, and we all knew it. We talked about it out in the audience. He was horribly overweight, smoked too much, and his diabetes were not being controlled, as his collapse the following year proved. I think it really bothered him that he couldn't sing, I used to watch him shake his head mournfully after butchering lines of songs. But he kept going at it, because the music mattered more than how good he sounded.
Anyway, I cut my teeth on the Dead in the 80's and thought they were great then. Really, I almost never listen to anything past 1978 anymore. They were flat and in a rut during the whole period, if you look at their career as a whole. Two things went wrong with the band this decade. 1)Cocaine 2)Brent Mydland God bless, him, as he's passed on, but I never liked his playing, even before I heard much from the 70's. He's too straightforward, unimaginative. Like putting Boz Scaggs in the Allman Brothers, or worse, Johnny Cash in the Miles Davis Quartet. Really, they became a hard-rocking anthem band with him in tow, and yes, I do blame him for it.
Gone were the meandering mind trips of the 70's. Everything was immediate gratification.
Anyway, I rant too long. Apologies all around.
This show? Oh yeah, I was there. Mescaline helped it a lot. Jerry's vocals hardly mattered much if you were there. We partied. As for debating how good the show was...eh. I'll be listening to Europe '72 while y'all fight it out.
October 28, 2011 Subject:
I was at these shows (I did the whole tour) and the boys positively rock the Spectrum to its foundation! So Jerry couldn't sing a lick by the end of the tour... who cares? These shows were absolutely amazing. Easily my favorites of the tour. Stop being so picky and just enjoy the music!
July 31, 2010 Subject:
This show features the most brutal vocals from Jerry I've ever heard. He actually sounds like he's dying from pneumonia. It's really hard to listen through but fortunately he plays his guitar magnificently.
The show starts off innocently enough with a very nice Stranger but something in the background sounds amiss. Unfortunately we soon find out it's Jerry's croaking voice. The jam is extended and intense and this is a great version. The nightmare begins with TLEO and the vocals are just godawful. Jerry's voice is absolutely offensive in Dupree's. His voice is brutal and cracking on almost every note. It's truly hard to listen to. I can't understand why he would continue to sing after this disaster. This continues the rest of the evening but he makes up for the vocals with some truly inspiring playing. His leads are fierce in pretty much every song and this is the saving grace of this performance.
The second set s very slight improvement. TheChina>Rider features a nice transition jam but again the vocals! Garcia murders the headlight line but tries to growl it out anyway. It sounds pathetic. The Playin' is one of the highlights of the set. The jam is jazzy and spaced out but the transition into Uncle John's is clunky. Once they segue however this is a pretty decent version. Aside from an amazing Other One the post Space jam is mediocre.
If Jerry's voice wasn't such a disaster this could be a great show. His soloing is excellent but unfortunately the voice is tough to get by.
May 5, 2010 Subject:
Kindrainbowbrother and 123ibt
Was your review some kind of a joke or something? Are you just kidding me or what? Look, its no secret that some or all of the music at any given Grateful Dead show are at best mediocre. Having said that, this Chinacat Sunflower is just unbelievable. It was hearing this Chinacat that, for me, proved the existence of GOD. I suggest you listen to it again. I dunno, maybe you were listening to a different tape or something. And the Playin/Uncles is brilliant.
August 30, 2006 Subject:
Pitched way too slow
Actually, raising it seventy cents works better, as the other method raised the tempo too much.
July 21, 2006 Subject:
I rarely ever pass judgement or criticize the Dead and this time is no exception but Jerry's voice is the worst I have heard in the 100+ shows I have seen and countless more I have listened to. Click on Big Railroad if you want to laugh or cringe.
I had front row right in front of Jerry this night and it was general admission on the floor so I had to claw and scratch and wait forever to have such good seats. Jerry's voice was shot this night and it clearly audible. All I remeber was Bobby spraying spit everytime he sang a verse, the first set is lackluster but I think the China>Rider is pretty darn good! Not the greatest show every played but def not the worst either
May 28, 2005 Subject:
Phlat in Philly
Maybe it was me and it probably was, but I rank this as the worst show of the 200+ shows I've seen. How could you go wrong with China-Rider-Playin'-Uncle John's? They did this night. The band was flat and the versions were poorly played. It was like the band was tired and went through the motions. One of the few times I felt they weren't playing as though it was their last show. The following 2 nights were much better. But none of the 3 compared to the insanity at Nassau Coliseum the week before... I'll add a star to this download for the sound quality (that'll make it a 2)
August 27, 2004 Subject:
I was there!
There is another show listed about page 7 of this archive. I am looking for the slow version of Friend of the Devil that the band played at the Sunday show. I dont see it listed here either. A fine show. Anyone who was there or has a tape, contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org. It was a fun weekend. The Sunday show was the best of the 3 day set.
This is a very underrated show. I went to all three nights and this night was very well played. The setlist was very predictable and doesn't look as nice as the next two nights but give it a chance. There is a killer little jam they do right before drumz that I think of as a "spooky forest jam"(I know, but you had to be there). After this show we couldn't wait for the next nights as they used up a few of the "common songs".